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Grey's avatar

I love your style of writing and I see the effort in which you took to write. I hope to convey a similar level of care in my writing to you.

If we work with the framework that Jungian Archetypes are not and cannot be casually deterministic, then it is not in opposition to modern feminism. If all archetypes are a function of our experiences and accessible to each person regardless of our X/Y genetics or genitalia, then it doesn't just thread the needle, it lands squarely within the concepts of feminism. That's not to say that it IS feminism, just that it aligns with the concepts of feminism. I think this framework also means that modern concepts of masculinity both mean nothing and at the same time can mean everything.

Similar to the Torso of Apollo, masculinity is both a headless, penis-less, deteriorated statue and at the same time a mirror of our own lived ideals of masculinity. Neither of your observations of the Torso of Apollo are at odds with each other. Like any piece of art, it can be at the same time both worthless and invaluable. And what is gender but a lived performance of ourselves?

Masculinity is and can be a social construct that's a threat to human wholeness, it can cause us to question our own failings to live to this ideal. It will cause men to shame themselves to the gym. Masculinity can also be an expression of who we are and how we live that transcends the image of an old headless statue at the bottom of the stairs.

The concept of masculinity as a function of maturity presents the idea that masculinity is also simply a social construct used as a point of comparison. That boys do not have masculinity and that men do. To be able to obtain maturity, to be able to obtain masculinity, is to recognize that there are boys without it. The hierarchal structure is inherent when one group is the haves and the other the have-nots based on a pre-determined set of maturistic ideals.

What this leaves us with is the abolition of gender. Not that man or women no longer exist, but that being a man or masculinity as a term no longer has to mean anything about you or I. That being a woman no longer has to mean anything about you or I. It means that the only concept of masculinity left is how each of us lives it our lives as a man. It means that the archetypes that coach our expressions can still exist and are not casually deterministic based on the genitalia we have (or don’t have in the case of Apollo).

The abolition of gender allows us the space to think of masculinity as we do the Torso of Apollo. That without a head, without a prescriptive concept of what masculinity should be, we can see the brilliance inside each of us.

And I agree with Rilke, we must change our lives.

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It's a lovely article and I really enjoyed it. Unfortunately by word count alone this article would be in accessible to most American young men. Needing to be familiar with Jungian archetypes and poetry appreciation would exclude most others. I have a masters in psychology and an MFA and with those peers this is a work of art. I don't feel like this is an article I would share with my son or my student workers as something they would connect with. Which is a lot of the problem I have with a lot of discussions around masculinity on the left. The conversation doesn't meet the target population where they are.

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